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False victory for opposing team

Nov 16 2011 at 02:53 AM #1 Sj408
The Opposing team for my teams match RSG Team Rowdy Snakes Gamers sent themselves as victorious when no match occured. They then went offline and ignored us.
Nov 16 2011 at 02:59 AM #2 Xzevz
We are willing to play a "rematch", the match that should have taken place. They had no screenshot to prove that they even won.
Nov 16 2011 at 03:08 AM #3 GetcutbyMullage
The game was scheduled to start at 8 cst. The game was not set up by 8 cst, therefore a 15 minute grace period was awarded to the opposing team. We began champion select before 8:15 cst. The champion select was going swimmingly until the last pick, when out of the blue, the opposition ended the game. The game ended after 8:15, before champion selection was completed. Therefore, the enemy team, swag, forfeited the game.
Nov 16 2011 at 03:08 AM #4 Bluntsmoke
After waiting for the opposing team to assemble at the 9:00 est agreed starting time, the 15 minute grace period went into effect, at 9:15 they started champion select, which they proceeded to dodge several minutes in. The time then was past 9:20, at which time the team in question forefeit, in this situation the game lobby was 5 of Team RSG, and an insufficient number in opposition, which according to rules no matter how many they have after the 15 minute grace period, the only thing that can allow a remake would be a DC after champion select by means of client crash or computer failure,according to the rules, neither of which apply to this situation as the opposing team dodged during mid champion select.
Nov 16 2011 at 04:31 AM #5 Sj408
My client froze which had a black screen thus I had to restart and it stated on rules if a game started and 3 minutes within any disconnectd/client crashes it may be restarted.
Nov 16 2011 at 11:35 AM #6 The^Malk
Sj408 The issue with what you just said is "if a game started" we had not even reached the champion loading screen yet and as a result the 3 minute rule does not come into play we also have evidence of SJ408 leaving during champion select not during the loading screen.
Nov 16 2011 at 01:24 PM #7 Bluntsmoke
The thing is, the game never started. Invalid argument.
Nov 16 2011 at 01:54 PM #8 Goopate
We have many screenshots that prove our case.
Nov 16 2011 at 09:38 PM #9 Sj408
Well the match has been rescheduled today so you guys must verse us, the only way to win is if you beat us.
Nov 16 2011 at 09:43 PM #10 Bluntsmoke
Opened a ticket.

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Nov 16 2011 at 09:49 PM #11 Xzevz
Let's just play the actual match sometime today, I do not see a rescheduled date so maybe we should come up with one that everyone is ok with.
Nov 16 2011 at 09:52 PM #12 Bluntsmoke
15 minute grace period does not mean 24 hours and 15 minutes. You all missed the agreed time, not us. We dont have to compensate for your inability to comply with the rules dictated by the tournament administration. We will advance to the next round.
Nov 16 2011 at 09:54 PM #13 Droskis
I think it's pretty clear that RSG has no interest in actually playing League of Legends. They want to knock us out on some made up technicality, and I guarantee they will try this on every team they go against. Is this a League of Legends tournament or a competition of who can manipulate rules to try and disqualify their opponent? Not sure why their team signed up if they're too afraid to play a match.
Nov 16 2011 at 09:54 PM #14 Xzevz
Let's just play the match. Arguing will get nowhere.
Nov 16 2011 at 09:57 PM #15 Bluntsmoke
Droskis I do not appreciate your vulgarity targeting us, we were on at the accepted time, ready to play, and win, you guys made this complicated not us. Compare it to a team arriving at the field an hour early, being prepared and warmed up, to your team, showing up 15 minutes late, and during warm ups, stopping the whole thing from happening. Who does it look like wants to play the game. I rest my case.
Nov 16 2011 at 09:59 PM #16 Bluntsmoke
You all are manipulating rules trying to reschedule the time, which by the way we have to agree to, to a time that is outside 10 hours past the agreed time. If you actually cared about the game and tournament you would know that the time has already passed that the rescheduled game could have been played. Next time, if you actually care about the given tournament, you arrive at the agreed time ready to play.
Nov 16 2011 at 10:00 PM #17 Bluntsmoke
Stop digging yourselves into a bigger ditch and breaking more rules, for your own sake's. I'm trying to help you guys out as a respectful competitor.
Nov 16 2011 at 10:02 PM #18 Droskis
I'm not using any vulgarity. I apologize one of our players was a little late, but as we've both agreed upon it was well within the grace period. Our team was clearly on and ready to play by the accepted time. Your team all logged off and ignored us once the server issue occurred, so if anything you would have forfeited. However, we don't want that. We want to play a match and let the winner move on.
Nov 16 2011 at 10:12 PM #19 Bluntsmoke
We all logged off? Is that true? and a server error occurred? now you are really digging yourself into a huge hole, you first of all said your player's computer froze, now you are not only lying but changing your story all together. We were ready from 7:00pm cst to 8:20 cst. And your player logged in way too late, and delayed the game past the accepted start time, and the additional grace period. do NOT try to put this on us. You all are at fault. We have screen shots.

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Nov 16 2011 at 10:16 PM #21 Bluntsmoke
at 9:24, come on, thats 24 minutes past accepted time. We aren't going to wait 24 extra minutes....
Nov 16 2011 at 10:19 PM #22 Bluntsmoke
This is not about what you "want" i know you guys want to have everything your way and have everyone change to accomodate you. But that is not how it works. There are rules set in place.
Nov 16 2011 at 10:21 PM #23 Droskis
I should not have said you all logged off, I apologize. I don't know that for sure, but I do know you refused to play us after the server error.

Our player did not "log in way too late", we've agreed that that was within the grace period, so that is outright wrong.

There was a server error were he could not see anything in his client, which is exactly what my teammate told you. We are not lying or changing the story.

Your screen shots are very nice looking, but seeing as I was present at the match and know what happened, have no need to see any of them.
Nov 16 2011 at 10:25 PM #24 Bluntsmoke
If your player couldnt see anything, and yet he picked his champion, and after he dodged your team said same picks and bans, now tell me how does your screen black out and yet you select your champion, the right champion, and lock in? A server error would mean that we all would be affected, as we all are connected to the same server? correct? For whatever reason, he dodged, before the game started, further delaying the game and your team was not ready. There is nothing else to it.
Nov 16 2011 at 10:28 PM #25 Bluntsmoke
You guys clearly forced a dodge so that the player who had just logged on could adjust to the new mastery system (a possiblity, speculation perhaps), or for whatever reason. The point is you delayed the game way beyond the accepted time, and on top of that past the grace period. Even after he got online during the grace period we said start the game, you all were saying we are discussing things, please wait. You clearly were trying to continually delay the game further and further, and frankly that is against the rules.
Nov 16 2011 at 10:29 PM #26 Bluntsmoke
Unfair play

The following actions will be considered unfair play:
1) The use of any cheat program and/or map hack program.
2) An intentional disconnection

Source: gamecom.plantronics.com/?page=page&abbr=...
Nov 16 2011 at 10:34 PM #27 Droskis
Server errors do not necessarily affect everyone in the same way, so, incorrect.

I believe that the black screen occurred after he tried changing his masteries, which was after he picked his champion. I'm not entirely sure when/how it happened so don't quote that as fact.

Locking in happens automatically after a set time, so that's a pretty silly question to ask.

Hypothetical question, if it was a server error (since I gather that you believe we purposefully dodged to gain some sort of advantage) that caused the game to not start and not our team's fault would that warrant a forfeit still?
Nov 16 2011 at 10:40 PM #28 Bluntsmoke
The fact is that he dodged during champion selection, not during loading. But it was your teams fault, your player dodged, not ours, the game didnt start.
Nov 16 2011 at 10:43 PM #29 Droskis
I understand that you blame us, but if it was determined (somehow) to be a server error and our team wasn't at fault, do you believe a rematch would be in order?
Nov 16 2011 at 10:47 PM #30 Bluntsmoke
There is no proof that the server crashed. We have concrete evidence you guys dont. You cant base a case around your word. You are basically spreading a rumor, no evidence just false information.
Nov 16 2011 at 10:49 PM #31 Bluntsmoke
No i don't believe a rematch would be in order. Also one of your players is impersonating an admin in telling me that an admin gave orders without evidence.
Nov 16 2011 at 10:50 PM #32 Badzor
I tried to remake and your leader of your team instantly logged off and told us that since there was a glitch that caused sj408 to leave champ selection that we forfeit that is completely against the rules you can remake and we had started the game before the grace period your team leader was extremely uncooperative for some reason it was at 8:20 central time that i tried to remake the game and your team leader logged off completely thus making it so we couldnt remake the game i took a ss of us after we remade the game we were all in there and he was offline.
Nov 16 2011 at 10:50 PM #33 Bluntsmoke
Waiting for a reply from badzor.

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Nov 16 2011 at 11:01 PM #34 The^Malk
I AM THE MALK
Nov 16 2011 at 11:05 PM #35 Xzevz
Suggest Reschedule Date: 11/19/2011 8:00 PM CST
Nov 16 2011 at 11:08 PM #36 Bluntsmoke
Declined until further notice.
Nov 16 2011 at 11:11 PM #37 Sj408
Quit trying to get a easy win and verse us and do an actual match.

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Nov 16 2011 at 11:26 PM #38 Few - Plantronics Admin
The match will be played.

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